You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson

My guest today is Knut Svanholm, author, educator, and philosopher focused on Bitcoin. Drawing on ethics, praxeology, and monetary history, Knut argues that sound money reduces conflict by aligning human action with natural law and voluntary exchange. In this episode, he explains why fiat banking already functions like a CBDC system in practice, why cash preserves privacy but not liberty, and why real freedom requires self custody and non-KYC Bitcoin. We explore his critique of custodial “paper Bitcoin,” the case for non-custodial adoption over treasury companies, and his view of Bitcoin as intellectual armor that raises the cost of violence. Knut outlines a practical path away from banks, explains why stablecoins can be a bridge yet remain fiat, and why a low-time-preference culture of quality over quantity matters.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --→ Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn → Shield your bitcoin with time-delayed transactions over multisig with BitVault: https://bit.ly/bitvault_efrat → Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat – AFFILIATES –→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat → Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Knut’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/knutsvanholmKnut’s Nostr: https://primal.net/knutKnut’s Website (10% off with code EFRAT): https://www.bitcoininfinity.com/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 - Coming Up01:23 - Introduction to Knut03:40 - Current Affairs: Stablecoins & CBDCs06:55 - Cash & Fiat vs. Bitcoin08:20 - Ethics of Money, Natural Law, First Principles 10:00 - Conflict Resolution via Violence Or Communications13:12 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault15:30 - Bitcoin as Intellectual Armor20:30 - Knut’s Take on Bitcoin Treasury Companies23:11 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines & Expat Money27:39 - Mass Adoption & Future Outlook29:46 - Transitioning to a Bitcoin-Only Reality34:44 - The Psychological Manipulation of Obedience39:05 - Hope & the Shawshank Redemption Metaphor42:43 - Bitcoin as a Tool for Human Freedom & Hope48:12 - Closing Thoughts & Acknowledgements

My guest today is Max Kei, former private banker and founder of Debifi, the world’s largest non-custodial Bitcoin-backed lending platform for institutions. With over a decade in private banking and deep experience building peer-to-peer Bitcoin infrastructure at Hodl Hodl and launching the Baltic Honeybadger conference, Max has become a leading voice on how Bitcoin will reshape global finance. In this episode, he explains why banks will adapt to Bitcoin rather than be destroyed by it, how Switzerland is quietly becoming the prototype for Bitcoin-banking integration, and why non-custodial finance is essential to prevent the next FTX-style collapse. We explore the tradeoffs between custodial and non-custodial systems, the security advantages of three-of-four multisig for institutional loans, and why stablecoins act as both a lifeline in emerging markets and a gateway to a full Bitcoin standard. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --→ Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn → Shield your bitcoin with time-delayed transactions over multisig with BitVault: https://bit.ly/bitvault_efrat → Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://abundantmines.com/efrat/ – AFFILIATES –→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat → Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Max’s Twitter: https://x.com/keidunm Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 - Coming Up01:20 - Introduction to Max Kai: Bitcoin Pioneer04:50 - Baltic Honey Badger Conference Origins10:27 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault11:50 - Bitcoin’s Community Ethos, Mission & Conferences19:00 - Max’ Intro to Bitcoin Through A Client 20:50 - Gradually Moving From Fiat To Bitcoin30:40 - When Will Banking Join Bitcoin?32:53 - Switzerland's Role in Bitcoin Banking38:03 - Rehypothication, Non-Custodial, Multisig Solutions42:01 - Flexible Lending Platforms & Security Measures56:13 - Max’s Take On Stablecoins: A Bridge to Bitcoin1:08:18 - Max Motivations, Aspiration & Hope

My guest today is Allen Farrington, writer, investor, and co-founder of Axiom, a Bitcoin-focused venture capital firm backing companies that use Bitcoin as real infrastructure rather than speculation. Allen co-authored “Bitcoin is Venice” and “Only the Strong Survive” and draws on a background in math, philosophy, Austrian economics, and long-term equity investing to explain why Bitcoin is both a technological breakthrough and a venture opportunity hiding in plain sight. In this episode, he shares why he believes the most valuable startups will use Bitcoin as invisible plumbing for payments, energy, and financial services rather than marketing themselves as “Bitcoin companies.” We explore why current stablecoin systems break under real demand, how Lightning and Taproot Assets enable issuer competition and scalable payments, and why the long arc ends with e-cash and Bitcoin-native money. Allen frames Axiom’s edge as “temporal arbitrage”: investing early where technical understanding and adoption are low, anticipating that in a decade the market will recognize the value created by Bitcoin-based infrastructure.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --→ Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn → Shield your bitcoin with time-delayed transactions over multisig with BitVault: https://bit.ly/bitvault_efrat – AFFILIATES –→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat → Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Allen’s X: https://x.com/allenf32Axiom Website: https://www.axiombtc.capital/about Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 - Coming Up01:12 - Introduction to Allen03:20 - Discovering Bitcoin & Career Trajectory 12:03 - Ad Break - Trezor & BitVault15:22 - Investment Philosophy & Lightning as Inspiration17:52 - Company and Investment Selection for Axiom VC30:12 - Stablecoins & Regulations37:32 - Why Most Stablecoin Systems Fail At Scale?44:50 - The Importance of Stablecoin Issuers51:16 - Stablecoins on Lightning & Taproot Assets: A New Approach1:01:23 - The Future of Digital Money: E-Cash1:05:47 - Steps to Migrate From Fiat To Bitcoin1:10:28 - Companies to Watch in the Bitcoin & Lightning Space1:16:43 - Allen Loves What He Does & Why He Does It

My guest today is Max Hillebrand, praxeologist, cypherpunk, and open-source advocate dedicated to building freedom tech that empowers individuals through economic and technological sovereignty. As a contributor to projects like Bitcoin Core, Wasabi Wallet, BTCPay Server, JoinMarket, Lightning Network, Bisq, Angor, White Noise, and Amethyst. In this episode, Max shares his journey from Austrian economics into Bitcoin privacy, recounting how tools like CoinJoins, Wasabi, and the Taproot upgrade push Bitcoin closer to true anonymity. We explore the battle between fiat and freedom, the broken incentives of inflation and war, and why opting into Bitcoin is both a moral imperative and a form of resistance. Max also introduces Nostr as the communications layer for a censorship-resistant future, explains the axioms of human action, argumentation ethics, and resistance, and highlights why he believes we now have the technological weapons to end modern financial slavery in our lifetime.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --→ Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn → Shield your bitcoin with time-delayed transactions over multisig with BitVault: https://www.bitvault.sv/ – AFFILIATES –→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat → Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Max’s Website: https://towardsliberty.com Max’s Nostr: npub1klkk3vrzme455yh9rl2jshq7rc8dpegj3ndf82c3ks2sk40dxt7qulx3vtEfrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 – Coming Up01:23 – Intro to Max05:56 – Max Passion for Austrian Economics06:56 – Bitcoin: Bridging Economics with Computer Science11:16 – Building Freedom Tech14:16 – CoinJoin and Bitcoin Privacy18:56 – Legal & Regulatory Challenges for Privacy Tech – Samurai, Tornado, Wasabi Wallet26:36 – Why Is Privacy Important?29:06 – Economics of Wars & The Broken Window Fallacy41:23 – The Value of Cash and Fiat Currency45:38 – Moving to a Bitcoin Standard & Influence on Businesses50:03 – Max’s Take on Bitcoin Treasury Companies52:03 – Nostr & Decentralized Protocols1:00:03 – “White Noise” - Building Nostr Private Encrypted Messaging1:04:48 – Austrian Economics Axioms: Human Action, Argumentation, Resistance1:13:10 – Max’s Book Recommendations & Reasons to Stay Hopeful

My guest today is Alena Vránová, entrepreneur, author, and builder of freedom tech who has spent over a decade pioneering tools that defend both digital and physical sovereignty. She co-founded SatoshiLabs (Trezor’s mother company), which launched  the world’s first commercially available hardware wallet, joined the Casa Node team to make running Bitcoin and Lightning easy, and co-authored The Little Bitcoin Book, a global bestseller introducing why Bitcoin matters for freedom and finance. Today, she is building GLOK, a project dedicated to protecting Bitcoiners against kidnapping, extortion, and physical threats. In this episode, Alena shares her journey from legacy finance into Bitcoin, recounting how she helped establish an entirely new market for hardware wallets. We discuss the ongoing attempts to co-opt Bitcoin through regulation and confiscation, the dangers of KYC and data leaks, and why physical security is the next frontier for Bitcoiners worldwide. Alena also reflects on the role of women in Bitcoin, the growth of a truly global community, and why she believes building tools for self-defense—digital and physical—is essential for human freedom► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --→ Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn → Shield your bitcoin with time-delayed transactions over multisig with BitVault: https://www.bitvault.sv/ → Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat → Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Alena’s Twitter: https://x.com/alenasatoshi Alena’s Nostr: https://bit.ly/4msttRb Glok’s Website: https://glok.me/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 - Coming Up01:40 - Intro to Alena & Her Background08:27 - Alena’s Journey Into Bitcoin11:08 - Building Trezor: Pioneering Hardware Wallets & Their Importance19:17 - Bitcoin Nodes: From Fringe to Mainstream22:37 - The Little Bitcoin Book29:08 - The Inevitable Evolution of Bitcoin: Regulation, Co-opting, Confiscation36:27 - Tech Innovation in Bitcoin40:02 - Kidnapping, Extortion & “Glok” - Alena’s New Security Project45:07 - Operational Security Checklist48:07 - Kidnapping Use Case & Glok’s Deterrent Solution59:17 - Women’s Safety in Europe1:00:17 - Empowering Women Generally & in Bitcoin1:11:27 - A Pronoic Mindset: Alena’s Hope for the Future

This episode is a recording of the great panel I moderated at Baltic Honeybadger 2025. Willy Woo, Max Kei & Preston Pysh break down ETFs, treasury strategies, custody risks, CBDCs, and why self-custody still matters most.-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --→ Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn → Shield your bitcoin with time-delayed transactions over multisig with BitVault: bitvault.sv → Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat → Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

My guest today is Francis Pouliot, long-time Bitcoin advocate, cypherpunk entrepreneur, and CEO of Bull Bitcoin, Canada’s leading Bitcoin-only exchange. Known for his uncompromising stance on self-custody, privacy, and resistance to state overreach, Francis has been a vocal defender of Bitcoin’s founding ethos for over a decade. He is also a key figure in Bitcoin Jungle, a circular economy in Costa Rica where hundreds of merchants transact daily in Bitcoin. In this episode, Francis shares how his background in Austrian economics and libertarian politics, combined with the wake-up call of COVID, led him to relocate from Canada to Costa Rica. We explore the creation and growth of Bitcoin Jungle, why farmers markets are fertile ground for adoption, and how his “scale versus compromise” framework guides strategic decisions in building Bitcoin infrastructure. Francis opens up about the tension of running a regulated exchange while opposing KYC, his mission to make self-custody as seamless as custodial services, and why Bitcoin’s payments layer is as critical as its store-of-value function. He dismantles the “Bitcoin is hijacked” myth spread by Roger Ver & others, addresses skepticism from the red-pilled community, and explains why barter and cash cannot scale for true financial freedom. → If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Francis’ Twitter: https://x.com/francispouliot_ Bull Bitcoin Website: https://www.bullbitcoin.com/ Francis’ Nostr: francis@nostrplebs.com Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 - Coming Up…01:18 - Intro to Francis & His Covid Wakeup Call05:38 - Costa Rica During Covid06:38 - Francis Interest in Austrian Economics & Libertarianism09:08 - Francis Journey Into Bitcoin & Bull Bitcoin13:08 - Private Property & Self-Custody17:18 - Efrat’s Revelation of the Fiat Scam20:58 - The Birth of Bitcoin Jungle Circular Economy30:38 - Custodial vs. Non-Custodial Bitcoin Solutions35:18 - The New Revolution: Build Tech That Creates New Reality40:48 - The Circular Community in Costa Rica & Globally45:48 - Bull Bitcoin: Freedom vs. Compliance & Regulation53:38 - Struggle Between Scale & Compromise - Cypherpunk Values1:00:38 - Understanding Bitcoin: Overcoming Skepticism & Claims Against It1:04:08 - Shortcomings of Cash, Barter, Gold1:07:48 - Roger Ver Attempt To Hijack Bitcoin and Damage to Bitcoin & Freedom Community1:18:08 - Can Bitcoin Be Coopted By Those Who Hold The Most Bitcoin?1:21:08 - Resist By Minimize Interface With Fiat/Matrix/Institutions

My guest today is Bob Burnett, veteran technologist, former Gateway CTO, and now CEO of Barefoot Mining. From consumer tech pioneer with eight U.S. patents to leader in sovereign Bitcoin mining, Bob shares his vision for “wild mining,” where miners own their energy using innovative energy sources. He challenges the myth that mining is only for massive corporations, showing how small, strategically placed operations can be both profitable and decentralizing. We discuss adoption curves, block template decentralization, why nation-states should build mining infrastructure before buying Bitcoin reserves, lessons from the early PC revolution, and the coming energy race with AI and High-Performance Computing.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Bob’s Twitter: https://x.com/boomer_btc Barefoot Mining: barefootmining.com Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 – Coming Up01:29 – Bob’s Background & His Long Tech Career05:15 – Bob’s Patents & Innovations, Early Adopter Mindset10:00 – Leap Frog Into New Tech Frontiers - AI & Bitcoin14:00 – PC As Prerequisite For The Internet Revolution17:00 – Good & Bad Actors19:00 – Why Bob Chose Bitcoin Mining21:10 – Bob’s Bitcoin Mining 101 Explanation25:00 – Why Bitcoin & Barefoot Mining?34:20 – Smaller Scale 0.5-5MW “Wild” Mining Sites Can Be As Cost Effective As Larger 50-200MW Sites39:40 – Barefoot Mining Expansion41:40 – The Energy Landscape and Bitcoin Mining43:44 – Opportunities for Small-Scale Mining46:39 – Meaning of HODL & Role of Citizens in Bitcoin48:24 – Key Trends in Bitcoin, Inc. Template Creation54:54 – Political Implications & Weaponization of Bitcoin Mining1:00:54 – Economic Sovereignty through Mining1:04:36 – The OP_Return Debate & Facilitating Change1:12:06 – Bob’s Hope for the Future

My guest today is the internationally renowned chef Pete Evans, bestselling author, and outspoken advocate for regenerative health and personal sovereignty. He built a successful career in the culinary world with over 30 cookbooks and award-winning restaurants, and after shifting to regenerative health and holistic wellness, he became one of the first high-profile figures to be widely deplatformed. In this episode, Pete shares how his journey from celebrity chef to wellness crusader began with a shift to ancestral eating that radically transformed his health. We dive into his clash with mainstream media, his exploration of psychedelics and spiritual growth, and how Bitcoin became the missing link in his pursuit of holistic sovereignty. Pete explains why Bitcoiners might hold the key to a global health revolution, and how financial freedom and health are deeply intertwined. From detoxing modern life to building vitality through conscious choices, Pete calls for radical accountability and curiosity.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Pete’s Twitter: https://x.com/peteevanschefx Pete’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chefpeteevans/ Pete’s new book - “The Primal Code”, Amazon - hard cover: https://www.amazon.com/Primal-Code-Peter-Evans/dp/1764057902 Pete’s new book - “The Primal Code”, Apple - digital version: https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-primal-code/id6747148044 Pete’s Website: https://peteevans.com/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 - Coming Up…01:20 - Introduction to Chef Pete Evans06:08 - The Impact Pete Made Using Ancestral Diets12:58 - Pete Becoming Public Enemy No. 1 In Australia & Facing Media Backlash15:05 - The Health-Media-Money Incentive Structure18:05 - Media’s Role During Covid Hysteria21:15 - Impact of Cancel-Culture on Pete: Personal Growth34:55 - Bitcoin Entering Pete’s Life40:44 - Health, Vitality & Bitcoin: Insights & Reflections45:44 - The Intersection of Regenerative Health & Wealth51:44 - “Sprayed”, Geo-engineered Food & Health Impacts1:01:32 - Thoughts, Beliefs & Leaning In To Uncertainty1:13:54 - Interested In A Retreat in Australia?1:16:54 - Living in the Present & Celebrating Uniqueness

My guest today is Preston Pysh, engineer, Apache helicopter pilot, partner at Ego Death Capital VC, and co-founder of The Investor’s Podcast Network. Known for co-hosting “Bitcoin Fundamentals” podcast and authoring several books on investing, Preston is one of the most influential voices in the Bitcoin space. In this episode, Preston shares how his systems-thinking mindset and background in military aviation led him to identify Bitcoin early as a superior store of value. We explore the emergence of Bitcoin treasury companies, how public markets are being rewired from within, and why financial engineering inspired by MicroStrategy’s playbook could unlock asymmetric returns for institutions and retail alike. Preston unpacks the mechanics behind mNAV models, risk-adjusted performance, and why stablecoins could be a threat but also a necessary step in Bitcoin’s adoption curve. He reflects on the spiritual and psychological shifts required to truly “get” Bitcoin, the importance of hope, and the dangers of institutional inertia. This is a conversation about clarity, conviction, and how Bitcoin is remapping the future of capital allocation, gear by gear, company by company.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Preston’s Twitter: https://x.com/PrestonPysh Preston’s Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@PrestonPysh Preston’s nPub: npub1s5yq6wadwrxde4lhfs56gn64hwzuhnfa6r9mj476r5s4hkunzgzqrs6q7z Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson– CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up…01:33 Intro to Preston & His Influence on Bitcoiners05:05 Hope & Freedom For Younger Audience07:58 The Superspreader Phenomena - Bitcoin’s Treasury Companies09:44 Risk Management & Complex Systems Experience16:25 Understanding Value in a Financial Landscape25:48 Corporate Adoption of Bitcoin & Treasury Companies31:42 How Saylor Built a “Transmission” with Strategy37:34 The Product: High Yield Income47:34 Public Markets: The Perfect Landscape51:26 Treasury Companies: Target for Governments56:51 The Transitioning Financial Systems: From Fiat to Bitcoin, Via Stablecoins & CBDCs1:04:32 The Fiat System's Impact: Doom & Gloom Outlook1:06:21 The Future of Monetary Order by 20301:11:05 Will KYC Fade Out? And Link to Taxation1:14:35 Short Fireside Questions - Books, Focus Areas1:20:05 The Nature of Good and Evil Forces1:24:34 What’s Preston’s Role Today & In The Future

My guest today is Eric Weiss, founder of Blockchain Investment Group and one of the earliest institutional investors in Bitcoin. In this episode, Eric shares how his background as a proprietary bond trader and early internet VC led him to Bitcoin in 2013, and how he eventually played a key role in orange-pilling Michael Saylor. We explore the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies, the structural tax advantages driving public Bitcoin adoption across countries like Brazil and Japan, and the global capital shift from legacy equities to Bitcoin-backed firms. Eric offers a grounded take on Bitcoin’s role as a store of value, argues against the need for it to replace fiat currencies, and explains why stablecoins could reinforce U.S. monetary dominance. He reflects on Stoic philosophy, personal responsibility, and the ethics of building something that benefits everyone. This is a conversation about conviction, sovereignty, and why the future of finance is being quietly rewritten, one balance sheet at a time.00:00 Coming Up…01:10 Meet Eric Weiss: Early Bitcoin Institutional Investor02:25 Eric’s Role in The Bitcoin Ecosystem06:02 The Impact of Bitcoin Treasury Companies On Bitcoin Adoption?08:00 Eric’s Path: From Wall Street to Bitcoin13:00 The Emotional Rollercoaster of Early Bitcoin Investing16:40 People Get Bitcoin in The Right Time For Them 19:04 What Does Success Mean to Eric?21:46 The Musical Chairs of the Monetary Order26:00 Bitcoin + Stablecoins: A Future Financial Operating System?28:53 Will the U.S. Face Global Pushback Over Dollar Dominance?34:00 CBDCs Will Accelerate Bitcoin Adoption37:56 Why Bitcoin? A Moral and Ethical Mission39:16 Michael Saylor, Friendship, and Shared Vision47:00 Life Beyond Bitcoin: Travel, Chess & Meditation49:00 Eric’s Advice to New Bitcoiners► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Eric’s Twitter: https://x.com/Eric_BIGfund Blockchain Investment Group Website: https://big.fund/about/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

My guest today is Kevin McKernan, a renowned genomicist and biotech pioneer, founder of Medicinal Genomics and contributor to the Human Genome Project. In this episode, Kevin exposes his discovery of DNA contamination in COVID-19 injections, revealing Pfizer's bait-and-switch between clinical trials and mass production, with SV40 viral sequences and bacterial DNA deliberately hidden from regulators. We discuss his journey from sequencing the first cannabis genome to becoming one of the most censored voices in vaccine safety research, and his battle against captured agencies like the FDA and EMA. Kevin shares his findings on persistent spike protein production, rising cancer rates, and excess mortality in heavily vaccinated populations like Japan. We also explore his vision for decentralizing science through Bitcoin and peer-to-peer technologies, drawing parallels between cellular respiration and ATP to Bitcoin's proof-of-work system. Join us for this conversation about scientific fraud, regulatory capture, and building censorship-resistant systems to reclaim both genetic integrity and scientific truth from corrupt institutions.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Kevin’s Twitter: https://x.com/kevin_mckernan Kevin’s Nostr: npub1k8dxqxgnv2p6ymwkamfrx237qjct3zezsx2xevt6z6nzdgalff3qy94qte Kevin’s Newsletter: anandamide.substack.com Kevin’s Website: https://medicinalgenomics.com/ Kevin’s keynote in Prague: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlgpbxb8EAA Our panel from BTC Prague: https://www.efrat.blog/p/censorship-of-free-speech-and-health Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

Our guests today are Pierre and Morgen Rochard, co-hosts of the “Bitcoin for Advisors” podcast and leading advocates for integrating Bitcoin into long-term financial planning. In this episode, Pierre shares how Austrian economics and open-source philosophy led him to Bitcoin in 2012, and how his new venture, “The Bitcoin Bond Company”, aims to unlock institutional credit markets using sound money. Morgen reflects on her background in traditional finance and explains how she helps individuals match long-term goals with long-term assets like Bitcoin. We discuss the cultural clash between fiat excess and Bitcoin values, the growing trend of corporate treasury adoption, and the risks of financialization without education. Pierre and Morgen break down the freedoms enabled by Bitcoin, and caution against over-leveraging and chasing returns. Above all, this is a conversation about financial sovereignty, purposeful planning, and bridging old systems with a better monetary future.► This episode is part of the "Bitcoin Vegas 2025 Special" in collaboration with Ben Samocha, Founder of Israel’s CryptoJungle and Crypto Talks podcast.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow  and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Morgen’s Twitter: https://x.com/MorgenRochard Pierre’s Twitter: https://x.com/BitcoinPierre Bitcoin for Advisors Podcast: https://bit.ly/40gk46q Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonBen's Twitter: https://x.com/bensamocha Ben's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-samocha/ Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up…01:10 Introducing Pierre & Morgen Rochard02:30 Reflections on Vegas & The Bitcoin Conference05:30 Wall Street, Nation States & Individual Adoption06:48 From a Doomer Mindset to A Constructive Transition10:20 Discovering Bitcoin: Their Personal Journeys & Austrian Economics14:30 What Makes Bitcoin Special?17:35 How Bitcoin enables rational decision-making19:20 Bitcoin Bond Company Explained: Bridging Traditional Finance27:00 Spiritual Foundations for Honest Money28:45 Biggest Risks and Rewards for Bitcoin33:45 Financial Education & Financial Planning36:35 Ripple/XRP Lobbying & Misinformation Campaigns41:30 Ripple Funding $5m for Anti-Climate Anti-Bitcoin Campaign  44:10 Bitcoin Treasury Companies: The Trend49:40 How to Build a Bitcoin-Aware Portfolio54:00 Most Memorable Research at Riot59:50 Finding Hope in God, Family & Community

My guest today is Susie Violet Ward, CEO and co-founder of Bitcoin Policy UK, a financial analyst and journalist (Forbes) focused on Bitcoin and the environment. In this episode, Susie unpacks the regulatory hostility toward Bitcoin in the UK, from the FCA’s refusal to distinguish it from crypto, to the media’s relentless misinformation, especially by the BBC. We discuss her personal journey from accountant to developer to Bitcoiner, and the uphill battle of educating regulators, advocating for mining, and defending financial sovereignty. Susie shares her efforts to expose flawed climate narratives, resist CBDCs, and challenge the FATF Travel Rule’s surveillance overreach. We also explore the risks of mining centralization, media capture, and why misunderstanding at the top is often worse than malice. Above all, this is a conversation about standing up for truth, pushing back against state overreach, and building a decentralized future, one policy at a time. ► This episode is part of the "Bitcoin Vegas 2025 Special" in collaboration with Ben Samocha, Founder of Israel’s CryptoJungle and Crypto Talks podcast.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Susie’s Twitter: https://x.com/DecentraSuze Bitcoin Policy UK Twitter: https://x.com/BitcoinPolicyUK Susie’s Forbes Column: https://www.forbes.com/sites/susievioletward/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonBen's Twitter: https://x.com/bensamocha Ben's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-samocha/ Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up…01:10 Introducing Susie & Bitcoin Policy UK 06:30 Current Bitcoin Policy & public adoption in the UK11:10 The State of Mainstream Media and Bitcoin Sentiment12:45 Bankers & Politicians Understanding of Bitcoin14:30 Susie’s FOI with The BBC19:00 UK Legislation & Regulation Concerns20:00 Dangers of KYC & the FATF Travel Rule, and MiCA26:00 Belief in the System, Leading To Mass Surveillance & CBDC29:50 Taxation and Privacy in the Digital Age35:00 Centralization Risks of Bitcoin Mining - clip 3738:00 The Digital Pound / CBDC Developments41:40 “Climate Change” Policies44:30 The Importance of Studying Bitcoin46:15 Susie’s Message of Hope

My guests today are JD and Britney, the couple behind “American Family Road Trip”, a faith-led family of ten living full-time on the road in a self-renovated bus. Since 2018, they’ve embraced a life of minimalism, homeschooling, and Bitcoin, all while raising eight children across the backroads of America and beyond. In this episode, JD and Brittney share how leaving behind their 7,000-square-foot house gave them the freedom to invest fully in their family, faith, and values. We explore their approach to road schooling, generational legacy, and why time is the most precious currency. They also reveal how Bitcoin aligns with their philosophy of sovereignty, self-reliance, and long-term thinking, and how it inspired JD to launch SatSaver, a seed phrase encryption solution for self-custody. Above all, this is a conversation about choosing intentionality over comfort, building strong family culture, and raising children equipped with tools, not baggage.► This episode is part of the "Bitcoin Vegas 2025 Special" in collaboration with Ben Samocha, Founder of Israel’s CryptoJungle and Crypto Talks podcast.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –JD & Britney’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/americanfamilyroadtrip/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonBen's Twitter: https://x.com/bensamocha Ben's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-samocha/ Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up…01:35 Meet JD & Britney Lott: A family of 10 traveling in a converted bus04:12 Why Transition From a 7,000 Sq Ft House to a Renovated Bus?06:15 The Philosophy of Freedom vs. Security08:50 Parenting and Core Values Vs. Society’s Expectations12:32 Discovering Bitcoin & Long Term Vision20:00 Education Priorities &  Kid’s Exposure to Screens23:54 Introducing Sat Saver - Encrypted Seed Phrase 30:10 Road Schooling and Family Focus31:12 Homeschooling Methods and Travelling to Educational Sites39:20 Challenges and Adventures on the Road45:15 Advice for Families Considering Road Tripping51:00 Final Thoughts & Reflections

My guest today is Joe Kelly, co-founder and CEO of Unchained, a leading Bitcoin financial services company known for its collaborative custody model. A long-time entrepreneur and early Bitcoin adopter, Joe has built one of the most trusted platforms for secure key management, estate planning, and Bitcoin-backed lending. In this episode, Joe shares how his unconventional upbringing in Alaska and years living on a sailboat shaped his frontier mentality and entrepreneurial drive. We discuss why Unchained is Bitcoin-only, how multisig remains the gold standard for custody, and why legacy finance models are incompatible with Bitcoin’s ethos. Joe also breaks down the regulatory grey zones surrounding lending, inheritance, and self-custody, and offers a sober perspective on avoiding the next wave of over-leveraged failures. Above all, this is a conversation about designing resilient systems, building for longevity, and preserving individual sovereignty in a Bitcoin-native future.► This episode is part of the "Bitcoin Vegas 2025 Special" in collaboration with Ben Samocha, Founder of Israel’s CryptoJungle and Crypto Talks podcast.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Joe’s Twitter: https://x.com/josephkelly Unchained’s Twitter: https://x.com/unchained Unchained’s Website: https://www.unchained.com/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonBen's Twitter: https://x.com/bensamocha Ben's LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-samocha-728147153/ Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 – Coming Up01:11 – Intro to Joe Kelly02:30 – Alaska. living on a sailboat & approach to business05:30 – Joe’s businesses & entrepreneurship07:15 – Bitcoin’s Long Terms Potential09:50 – The Difference Between Bitcoin & Crypto 12:50 – Why “Unchained” Was Founded17:50 – Handling Inheritance & Estate Planning19:30 – Why Multisig Over Multi-Party Computation (MPC)24:50 – What “Bitcoin-Native” Really Means29:50 – Regulatory Clarity For Unchained 31:20 – Risk Management Policies for Investors & Borrowers35:10 – US Regulation & Legal Hurdles 40:20 – Mistakes & Scaling in Bull Markets42:00 – Lessons from Being a Pilot & Decision-Making45:40 – What Gives Joe Hope

My guest today is Marty Bent, a writer, investor, and one of the most influential voices in the Bitcoin media ecosystem. As the founder of the popular podcast and newsletter TFTC (Truth for the Commoner) and managing partner at Ten31, a venture firm investing exclusively in Bitcoin infrastructure, Marty has helped shape the conversation around Bitcoin’s future for nearly a decade. In this episode, Marty walks us through his journey from unemployed blogger to leading Bitcoin commentator and how he's leveraging AI to scale his media output across platforms. We explore the impact of open protocols like Nostr, the potential of podcasting 2.0, and the need for content authentication in the age of deepfakes. Marty also shares how Bitcoin is solving real-world energy problems, from stranded power to nuclear buildouts, and why self-custody and decentralization remain essential to Bitcoin’s resilience.► This episode is part of the "Bitcoin Vegas 2025 Special" in collaboration with Ben Samocha, Founder of Israel’s CryptoJungle and Crypto Talks podcast.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on Augmented NAC, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Marty’s Twitter: https://x.com/MartyBent TFTC Twitter: https://x.com/TFTC21 TFTC Website: https://www.tftc.io/ Ten31’s Website: https://ten31.vc/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonBen's Twitter: https://x.com/bensamocha Ben's LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-samocha-728147153/ Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up...01:10 Welcome from Bitcoin Vegas01:58 Introducing Marty Bent03:19 Vegas, gambling, and societal decay04:50 The origins of TFTC and Marty's media journey09:00 Using AI to grow and streamline content14:22 Onboarding newcomers through relatable content15:56 Open-source media, Podcasting 2.0, and Nostr20:36 Content authenticity in the AI age25:05 Most influential podcast guests for Marty30:08 Why Ten31 invests only in Bitcoin infrastructure35:24 Bitcoin mining, climate realism, and energy use43:53 Biggest threats to Bitcoin: apathy and custody risks49:15 What trends will accelerate Bitcoin adoption54:29 Bitcoin gifting stories and early advocacy56:17 What gives Marty hope

My guest today is Caitlin Long, Founder and CEO of Custodia Bank, a 22-year Wall Street veteran, and one of the most influential voices in Bitcoin policy and financial regulation. A Harvard-trained lawyer and early Bitcoin advocate, Caitlin played a central role in turning Wyoming into the most crypto-friendly legal jurisdiction in the United States, helping pass over 20 blockchain-enabling laws. In this episode, Caitlin walks us through her ongoing legal battle with the Federal Reserve, the hidden mechanics of Operation Chokepoint 2.0, and why access to a Fed master account is the front line of financial freedom. We discuss the stablecoin wars, the surveillance threats of CBDCs, and how privacy, law, and innovation are colliding inside the US banking system. Above all, this is a conversation about fighting centralized control, defending open access to money, and building the legal rails for a Bitcoin-native financial future.► This episode is part of the "Bitcoin Vegas 2025 Special" in collaboration with Ben Samocha, Founder of Israel’s CryptoJungle and Crypto Talks podcast.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on the Augmented NAC from ZeroSpike, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Caitlin’s Twitter: https://x.com/CaitlinLong_ Custodia Bank’s Website: https://custodiabank.com/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonBen's Twitter: https://x.com/bensamocha Ben's LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-samocha-728147153/ Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up01:05 Welcome from Bitcoin Vegas & Intro to Caitlin02:05 Vegas, Bitcoin & Fiat04:00 Founding Custodia & Wyoming’s Role08:14 Anti-Bank Bias & Innovation Crackdown12:08 Battling the Fed for a Master Account14:35 Chokepoint 2.0 & Bitcoin’s Resilience17:44 Suing the Fed: Strategy & Stakes24:29 Stablecoins: Banks vs Startups31:12 Outdated US Payment Rails37:54 CBDCs: Privacy & Surveillance42:20 Does Financial Privacy Exist? Coinbase Goes To Court50:55 Stablecoins vs Eurodollar System54:54 LIBOR Ends: US Reclaims Control57:27 Wyoming’s Pro-Bitcoin Laws1:05:45 Remove Taxes on Bitcoin1:09:05 Adoption, Saylor & Market Momentum1:14:01 Final Thoughts & Hope for Bitcoin

My guest today is Mark Moss, a serial entrepreneur, investor, and educator in Bitcoin and macroeconomics. He’s the founder of Market Disruptors and a partner at the Bitcoin Opportunity Fund. In this episode, Mark explains why fiat currencies collapse through inflation over decades, not overnight, and how the U.S. is using tariffs and debt expansion to stay afloat. We dive into why the 60/40 portfolio is obsolete, how Bitcoin acts as a portfolio “cheat code,” and why investing in Bitcoin infrastructure is key to building the future. We also discuss personal branding as a tool for sovereignty in the digital age, and why owning your voice matters as much as owning your wealth. Above all, this is a conversation about hope, brought to life by Mark’s trademark optimism and his belief that we are stepping into a new era of innovation and prosperity.► This episode is part of the "Bitcoin Vegas 2025 Special" in collaboration with Ben Samocha, Founder of Israel’s CryptoJungle and Crypto Talks podcast.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Get 10% off on the Augmented NAC from ZeroSpike, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- EPISODES –00:00 Coming Up…01:18 Intro & Welcome02:45 Vegas, Fiat & Gambling Culture05:44 Meme Coins & Speculation06:13 The Changing Monetary Order10:33 Debt, Inflation & Policy Limits15:09 Tariffs & Economic Sovereignty19:19 Bitcoin vs Traditional Portfolios23:33 Institutional Bitcoin Adoption27:00 The $5T Liquidity Wave32:04 Debt Cycles & Liquidity Gaps34:20 Bitcoin Should Be In All Portfolios38:24 Personal Branding & Skills44:53 Building Local Bitcoin Circles49:26 Why Mark Doesn’t Spend Bitcoin50:24 Top Thinkers & Influences52:13 Message of Hope & Optimism-- LINKS –Mark’s Twitter: https://x.com/1MarkMoss Mark’s Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@1MarkMoss  Mark’s Website: https://www.1markmoss.com/Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonBen's Twitter: https://x.com/bensamocha Ben's LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-samocha-728147153/ Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

My guest today is Parker Lewis, the author of “Gradually Then Suddenly” and head of business development at Zaprite. A long-time fixture in the Bitcoin community, Parker is known for making complex monetary ideas accessible and for championing Bitcoin’s role in restoring long-term thinking, personal responsibility, and economic sovereignty. Born and raised in Austin, Texas, Parker is a vocal advocate for the state’s unique culture of freedom and its potential to lead the next chapter of Bitcoin adoption. In this episode, we explore why Texas attracts high-agency individuals and how its frontier history shaped Parker’s views on liberty and resilience. We also dive into the debate around OP_RETURN, what it reveals about centralization risks in Bitcoin Core and mining, and why Parker believes a second implementation of Bitcoin software may be critical to preserving the network’s decentralization. This is a conversation about the roots of sovereignty and the technical vigilance required to protect it.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Join me on June 19-21 at BTC Prague! Code EFRAT = 10% discount: https://pages.btcprague.com/ambassador-efrat-fenigson ►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Parker’s Twitter: https://x.com/parkeralewis Parker’s Book “Gradually, Then Suddenly”: https://thesaifhouse.com/#Gradually-Then-Suddenly Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up…01:26 Intro to Parker, TFTC Takeover & Bitcoin Park Austin04:12 Why is Texas a Hub for Freedom?08:18 Ad Break: Trezor & BTC Prague09:40 The Cultural Significance of Texas History21:08 Gradually, Then Suddenly: Understanding Bitcoin's Adoption29:00 Ad Break: Plan B / Expat Money & New Totalitarian Order Masterclass31:00 Shortcomings of Cash as a Fiat Currency and the Need for Bitcoin38:30 Bitcoin's Future as a Medium of Exchange51:01 Bitcoin in Action: Real-World Applications and Acceptance53:20 OP_Return Saga: Parker’s Take & What Risky Precedence Is Being Set1:03:00 Centralization & Decision Making Risks in Bitcoin1:19:40 The Future of Bitcoin: Hope and Challenges1:24:30 Message of Hope from Parker